tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post1322982937067458272..comments2023-10-02T15:01:43.213+01:00Comments on Chilcot's Cheating Us: The Death of David Kelly - Tom Mangold on 18th and 19th July 2003Andrew Watthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-26049386495444530212011-02-05T08:23:59.526+00:002011-02-05T08:23:59.526+00:00PS
The Independent actually reported the safe ho...PS<br /><br />The Independent actually reported the safe house in the last week of July 2003 <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/dr-kellys-wife-kept-diary-of-final-days-588227.html" rel="nofollow"> in Hockley</a>, near Southend Airport and also Mrs Kelly being offered a place in Jersey (excellent air links between the two!). Whence did the Independent get this information?<br /><br />Incidentally, Tom Mangold worked for the BBC between 1964 and 2003. He had certainly left the BBC to go freelance<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3126145.stm" rel="nofollow">by 5 August 2003</a> and was making a Kelly documentary for Ch4.,shown Oct 2003. However <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/50th_birthday/3198149.stm" rel="nofollow">this BBC page on Panorama history</a> says he left the programme in 2001.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-66353096488742059302011-02-05T06:52:06.524+00:002011-02-05T06:52:06.524+00:00Andrew
Did you notice this Guardian article of Mo...Andrew<br /><br />Did you notice <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/jul/21/broadcasting.pressandpublishing" rel="nofollow">this Guardian article</a> of Monday 21 July 2003 by Claire Cozens, drawing heavily on Tom Mangold's insights?<br /><i>"Caught in a Nutcracker"</i> mentions Dr Kelly sitting in a safe house and emails which subsequently emerged at the Hutton Inquiry. What is the origin of the <i>dark actors</i> line? The <a href="" rel="nofollow">BBC News</a> on Saturday evening, 19 July is already quoting dark actors and an interview given by Mrs Kelly to the <b>New York Times</b> (no connection with Judy Miller there, then!), quoted <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/huttoninquiry/Kelly-warned-of-dark-actors.2445253.jp" rel="nofollow">here</a> in the Scotsman. <br />Who, I wonder, was the leading forensic expert who posited late on 19th July that <i>"Kelly may have taken the tablets in an initial suicide attempt, possibly when he first went out for his walk. <br />He probably cut his wrist later after the drugs failed to kill him quickly enough"</i>? Dr Keith Hawton I presume?felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-48934472625150112982011-02-04T08:05:23.993+00:002011-02-04T08:05:23.993+00:00Thanks, Andrew. Some of the Bosch evidence doesn&#...Thanks, Andrew. Some of the Bosch evidence doesn't ring true to me though. Having said that, what Mangold says about the identification of Dr Kelly seems very reasonable. However, he continues...<br /><i> I knew the moment I got the phone call at 9 o'clock in the morning,(18 July) I knew that he had to be dead because David Kelly did not go missing. If he was missing, he was dead.</i><br />To paraphrase, Dr Kelly didn't do missing.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-20049560181544115982011-02-04T07:55:11.618+00:002011-02-04T07:55:11.618+00:00Felix,
By the way in the oral transcript for 4th ...Felix,<br /><br />By the way in the oral transcript for <a href="http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/transcripts/hearing-trans30.htm" rel="nofollow">4th September 2003</a>, there is a mention of a "safe house" but it's by Olivia Bosch (see Page 29).<br /><br />So far as I can see Tom Mangold is entirely silent about the "safe house", which I find surprising given his public statements on 18th July 2003 (only 6 weeks or so before he gave evidence to Hutton).Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-90833400405845241402011-02-04T07:50:26.564+00:002011-02-04T07:50:26.564+00:00Felix,
Mangold gave oral evidence to Hutton on 4t...Felix,<br /><br />Mangold gave oral evidence to Hutton on <a href="http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/transcripts/hearing-trans30.htm" rel="nofollow">4th September 2003</a>.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-41706578511379733492011-02-04T07:46:07.517+00:002011-02-04T07:46:07.517+00:00Andrew
The Guardian article of 18 July is quite i...Andrew<br /><br />The Guardian article of 18 July is quite interesting. The Intelligence & Security Committee evidence of 16 July does not figure at all in the report.<br /><br />Notice Mangold had also hotfooted it into the Radio 4 PM studio that same afternoon (Independent link) but I can't find any transcript in the Hutton evidence.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.com