tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post1838276915948888898..comments2023-10-02T15:01:43.213+01:00Comments on Chilcot's Cheating Us: The Death of David Kelly - A man supposedly with two capsAndrew Watthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-35960239768368882502011-05-11T16:52:54.443+01:002011-05-11T16:52:54.443+01:00Andrew
I know but livor mortis was described as m...Andrew<br /><br />I know but livor mortis was described as mobile in the pm report so with the help of gravity (lifting the legs) or chest compressions it may have been possible to squeeze a bit more out.<br /><br />Alternatively the new blood may not have been Dr Kelly's or even human if it comes to that. It's a pity that ACC Page never reported back on the ongoing DNA profiling.<br /><br />Typical of Hutton investigation of a technical matter regarding phones not resolved, investigations into whether third parties were present not resolved and the results back from DNA sampling not completed; pretty well half arsed like the rest of the inquiry in relation to determining the facts. But facts were the last thing Hutton wanted at his unlawful inquest.<br /><br />Mr Green<br /><br />Well, since then I have had upwards of -- I could count them but at a guess 50 items sent to the laboratory.<br />Q. To analyse?<br />A. To analyse, to carry out DNA profiling, to look at some of the staining in a little more detail.<br />Q. Right. And you have carried all that out and reported back to Assistant Chief Constable Page or through his senior investigating officer?<br />A. Well, my examinations are still ongoing.<br />2Q. Right.<br />A. I have provided a spreadsheet with a kind of -- a snapshot of where we are today about what items have been examined, what has been found on them, which items were profiled, the results of those profile tests, although I have not put my evidence down in a statement form as yet.<br />Q. Because you are just finishing off the testing of that material?<br />A. Exactly.<br />Q. I think when all that is concluded Assistant Chief Constable Page is going to come back and tell us the results. (oh no he’s not) Subject to that, is there anything else that you know of relating to the circumstances of Dr Kelly's death that you can assist his Lordship with?<br />A. I do not think so, my Lord.LancashreLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05635388809036821102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-43271640764555616592011-05-11T15:28:17.614+01:002011-05-11T15:28:17.614+01:00LL,
A major problem with your suggestions as to ...LL, <br /><br />A major problem with your suggestions as to what may have happened after the ambulance crew left the scene is that the body was dead and had, in all likelihood, been so for several hours.<br /><br />Interfering with the wrist wouldn't cause blood to flow since cardiac activity had ceased hours before.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-57395116849924906222011-05-11T11:06:08.286+01:002011-05-11T11:06:08.286+01:00Andrew
I'm sure if all the photos still exist...Andrew<br /><br />I'm sure if all the photos still exist then there would proof but I suspect that the photos taken by Sawyer when the ambulance crew were present may have done a disappearing trick.<br /><br />Both ambulance crew described the injury to the wrist as pointing upwards and covered with dried blood. Franklin and Sawyer describe the injury as not being visible because it was facing down.<br /><br />In his Aug 2010 interview to the Daily Mail Dr Hunt said<br /><br /> "there was clear evidence Dr Kelly repeatedly dislodged clots or scabs to ensure he continued bleeding. 'His wrist was red so he must have been doing this for some time.'<br /><br />The evidence by the ambulance crew conflicts with that of the pathologist and police. The evidence suggests that after the ambulance crew left the scene the wound was interfered with to permit fresh blood to flow then the wrist was turned over to facing down to hide fresh blood on the wound.<br /><br />I have no doubts that photographs existed that prove if this was the case or not; I don't know if those photos still exist but I do know that Dominic Grieve has the evidence for cover up that he made a public plea for and yet he has done nothing about it.<br /><br />I'm afraid the Attorney General has become a part of the cover up.LancashreLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05635388809036821102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-7349073516336573872011-05-11T10:35:59.902+01:002011-05-11T10:35:59.902+01:00LL,
What you suggest has to be a possibility in l...LL,<br /><br />What you suggest has to be a possibility in light of the evidence that the body was moved.<br /><br />If the scene photographs are suitably comprehensive it should be possible to explore all this definitively.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-56016254689338407752011-05-11T10:09:53.841+01:002011-05-11T10:09:53.841+01:00When the body was sat against the tree the injured...When the body was sat against the tree the injured wrist would have been located close to the base of the tree and blood staining / pool would be expected around the injury.<br /><br />But when the body was moved to lying flat on its back. the original blood pool would have been inconvenient. Why would there be a blood pool by Dr Kelly's left shoulder?<br /><br />The cap was used to cover up the blood pool by the shoulder, that is how it became blood stained. If the cap had simply slipped off Dr Kellys head it would not have been stained with blood in the manner reported.<br /><br />If the cap fits, as they say! Is this a cover up of a cover up?LancashreLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05635388809036821102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-90306857322780150112011-05-11T05:16:18.312+01:002011-05-11T05:16:18.312+01:00I'm fascinated that the highly experienced DC ...I'm fascinated that the highly experienced DC Coe appeared so uncertain about the cap:<br /><br />6 Q. Could you be more particular as to what the clothes you<br />7 saw were?<br />8 A. He was wearing a Barbour jacket. There was a cap,<br />9 a pair of trousers and think walking boots, but I cannot<br />10 be certain on that.<br />11 Q. Was the cap on the head or was the cap apart from the<br />12 body?<br />13 A. That I cannot remember -- I have a feeling the cap was<br />14 off, but I cannot be sure. <br /><br />DC Coe was standing close to the body for 25 to 30 minutes and with a notebook to hand. But Mr Knox fails to pin him down on this!!brian in the tamar valleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13475701925894027724noreply@blogger.com