tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post2869657653711378928..comments2023-10-02T15:01:43.213+01:00Comments on Chilcot's Cheating Us: The Death of David Kelly - Operation AntlerAndrew Watthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-72317148550998182632011-11-15T06:42:49.529+00:002011-11-15T06:42:49.529+00:00parliamentary debtate on Operation Antler here f...parliamentary debtate on <a href="http://www.kent.ac.uk/porton-down-project/DEBATEHOUSEOFCOMMONS2222005.pdf" rel="nofollow">Operation Antler here </a> from February 2005. Even though there was not enough evidence to prosecute,<a href="http://www.4ni.co.uk/northern_ireland_news.asp?id=18125" rel="nofollow">As the case potentially involved up to 250 servicemen, across a 50-year period, from 1939-1989, Wiltshire Police were initially allocated £850,000 funding by government to conduct the inquiry by a 13-strong team, including a military policeman, into the Service Volunteer Programme at Porton Down.<br /><br />Wiltshire Police said that their initial inquiries had given them “grave cause for concern” and selected 25 cases for further investigation, eight of these were sent for examination by the Crown Prosecution Service. Over 700 ex-service personnel and their relatives contacted police in regard to the inquiry.</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-21592107029148545302011-08-20T07:57:26.001+01:002011-08-20T07:57:26.001+01:00Scanning Electron Microscope on Porton Down, Frank...Scanning Electron Microscope on Porton Down, Frank Beswick and the Markov ricin case now located <a href="http://electronmicroscope1.com/2011/07/05/scanning-electron-microscope-manufacturers/" rel="nofollow">here</a>felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-7060002941595902502011-02-20T07:49:54.786+00:002011-02-20T07:49:54.786+00:00Felix,
I was reading another copy of the Poison P...Felix,<br /><br />I was reading another copy of the <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Poison-Pellet-Murder&id=3802336" rel="nofollow">Poison Pellet Murder</a> story online yesterday.<br /><br />One of the interesting aspects, for me, of the story is just how easy it would have been (and almost was) for the pellet containing the ricin to have been missed.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-90546376896409722712011-02-20T05:51:44.349+00:002011-02-20T05:51:44.349+00:00Link here to death notice.Interestingly he worked ...Link <a href="http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/127954/beswick" rel="nofollow">here</a> to death notice.Interestingly he worked on <a href="http://scanning-electron-microscope.esciencemedia.com/the-poison-pellet-murder/" rel="nofollow">ricin experiments</a> following the assassination of Georgi Markov who was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov" rel="nofollow">famously bumped off by his own government</a> in 1978.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-77773572354559667312011-02-19T21:49:40.388+00:002011-02-19T21:49:40.388+00:00Andrew/LL
Looks like the sender of TVP/3/110 has ...Andrew/LL<br /><br />Looks like the sender of TVP/3/110 <a rel="nofollow">has just died</a><br />Michael Evans of The Times (10 Sept 2003)<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1157371.ece" rel="nofollow">says Kelly worked in another department</a> and wasn't involved in the inquiry (Operation Antler).felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-64725588094435951212011-02-19T20:40:39.144+00:002011-02-19T20:40:39.144+00:00Andrew/LL
The letters went out from the CPS on 7t...Andrew/LL<br /><br />The letters went out from the CPS <a href="http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/written_answers/2004/may/28/operation-antler" rel="nofollow">on 7th July 2003</a>. Any idea what the crest is on TVP/3/0110 ? Looks like a Welsh connection.felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-27148676354373328422011-02-19T16:03:40.857+00:002011-02-19T16:03:40.857+00:00Andrew, Geoffrey Holland's paper is fascinatin...Andrew, Geoffrey Holland's paper is fascinating, I was sorry that the link to Dr Kelly's capers on Gruinard has gone missing (endnote 48)LancashreLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05635388809036821102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-36435712954360487742011-02-19T15:56:54.699+00:002011-02-19T15:56:54.699+00:00Felix,
Thanks for the reference to mod_2_0041.
Y...Felix,<br /><br />Thanks for the reference to <a href="http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/mod/mod_2_0041.pdf" rel="nofollow">mod_2_0041</a>.<br /><br />You're right to question why David Kelly's secondment to FCO isn't mentioned, not least because I understand that the FCO was paying David Kelly's salary (although I don't immediately recall where I read that).<br /><br />Perhaps mod_2_0041 omits mention of particularly highly classified components of what David Kelly worked on.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-5371837345720115302011-02-19T15:46:18.264+00:002011-02-19T15:46:18.264+00:00LancashireLad,
Yes, I think that Letter Beswick/K...LancashireLad,<br /><br />Yes, I think that <a href="http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/tvp/tvp_3_0110.pdf" rel="nofollow">Letter Beswick/Kelly 10/07/03</a> is almost certainly referring to Operation Antler.<br /><br />So, it seems pretty clear that David Kelly <i>knew</i> about Operation Antler.<br /><br />Was he one of the Porton Down scientists being investigated? For the moment, that isn't clear.Andrew Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03829322263100808179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-72780757303746257072011-02-19T15:34:04.912+00:002011-02-19T15:34:04.912+00:00Is TVP 3 / 0110 Beswick / Kelly letter a reference...Is TVP 3 / 0110 Beswick / Kelly letter a reference to Op Antler? I don't know!LancashreLadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05635388809036821102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-7397662547795572162011-02-19T15:14:37.214+00:002011-02-19T15:14:37.214+00:00This 2005 paper by Geoffrey Holland puts the orig...<a href="http://www.rrojasdatabank.info/pfpc/geoholland.doc" rel="nofollow">This 2005 paper </a> by Geoffrey Holland puts the origin of Saddam Hussein's anthrax which was exported from the USA between 1985-9 originated from a cow which had died, appropriately, in South Oxfordshire in 1937!felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7713282434144514700.post-867006579394017362011-02-19T15:03:12.386+00:002011-02-19T15:03:12.386+00:00There is no mention of Foreign & Commonwealth ...There is no mention of Foreign & Commonwealth Office at <a href="http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/mod/mod_2_0041.pdf" rel="nofollow">MOD/2/0041</a>(annex D to MOD/2/0009-11) despite David Kelly being described as a special adviser to the FCO during 2002 and 2003.<br /><br />Equally fascinating, is that the 2002 <a href="http://www.vertic.org/media/Archived_Publications/Yearbooks/2002/VY02_Kelly.pdf" rel="nofollow">VERTIC Bioweapons Verification report, TVP/3/0265-82 </a> which Kelly wrote (Hutton Inquiry evidence) has NO MENTION whatsoever of Porton Down apart from describing Kelly as Head of Microbiology there from 1982-94. The Russians never got near the place through the Trilateral Agreement, yet they had admittance to Fort Detrick,Salk Institute,the Pine Bluff Arsenal, Arkansas and the Baker Test Facility Utah - Dugway Proving Ground - , in the USA!felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12363991252776819712noreply@blogger.com